. >> the president won by winning re-election. that's what happened. he won. >> that does tend to happen after you lose a presidential election. yes. >> let me get you both to this. this is probably the last time i'll talk to you between now and 2013. so i need you to say -- you cannot say the president or mitt romney in the answer to these questions. name your political winner and loser of 2012. roll land? >> winner, latinos, prejudice is going to push forward when it comes to immigration reform and folks from the west indies and caribbean and other parts of the country. my loser, crazy republican males who don't know how to talk about the issue of rape. don't touch it or you're going to get burned. that's the biggest loser of 2012. >> okay, erick, i know he doesn't include new that crazy white thing that he's talking about. what are your winners and losers? >> he just doesn't like the way i dress bill burton and the super pac. lose ares on the left, unions are huge. and losers, john cornyn, horrible recruitment two years in a row and this time they d